Melime
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Post by Melime on Jul 17, 2004 20:14:49 GMT -5
I am re-reading LotR and I noticed something that I hadn't before. When the company is at the west-gate of Moria Gandalf says the gate says "The doors of Durin, Lord of Moria, Speak friend and enter." The gate was made when there was friendship between Eregion and Khazad-dum before the Last Alliance and the destruction of Eregion. I thought that Moria ('black pit')was the name given to Khazad-dum once it was abandoned by all the dwarves. Why do you think Tolkien did this? Was it a mistake?
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Post by Ilúvatar on Jul 19, 2004 9:55:16 GMT -5
I honestly believe this to be a mistake.
But maybe Gandalf was just putting Moria in as a translation. It could have said 'black pit' but Gandalf said it how the others would understand it. Or not.
It's one of those Tolkien anomolies.
Anyone else have an explaination - real or imagined?
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Melime
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Post by Melime on Jul 19, 2004 13:48:51 GMT -5
Well that would make sense if he entered Moria instead of Khazad-dum since that was it's name as of the 3rd age, but I don't see why Gandalf wouldn't just say what it said. It's not like they'd go "huh? what's Khazad-dum?!" Plus, there's a picture of the west-gate and it shows the feanorian characters (exactly what the gate said) which was 'Ennyn Durin Awn Moria' So the idea of Gandalf just entering Moria in doesn't work. lol I also believe it was a mistake. Just wondered if anyone else knew better. ;D
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