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Heroes
Jan 15, 2004 13:20:29 GMT -5
Post by Ilúvatar on Jan 15, 2004 13:20:29 GMT -5
Who do you think is the "hero" of the book? Why? What makes a hero?
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Heroes
Feb 5, 2004 3:48:49 GMT -5
Post by Isthir - RifCoral on Feb 5, 2004 3:48:49 GMT -5
The hero of the entire series? I would love to say Gandalf, but he is the best, not the hero. Many may say that Frodo is the hero, not in my mind. To me Frodo is the weakest character in the series, just more headstrong and addicted to The One. In all reality, Sam is the hero. When all things seemed impossible Sam found a way to move on. When Frodo faltered, which he did many times, Sam picked up the slack.
Just my thoughts.
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Feb 14, 2004 18:15:15 GMT -5
Post by Boromir on Feb 14, 2004 18:15:15 GMT -5
No, I believe it would be Frodo. He is, of course, the main character. He chooses to take the task of destroying It. He endures It, not forever, but longer than most. And he takes It to Mount Morannon. He saves Middle Earth. Sam, is his strength. Sam doesn't let him quit. Though Sam did very much in helping, he did not take The Ring to Mordor and destroy it.
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Heroes
Feb 15, 2004 6:15:14 GMT -5
Post by Isthir - RifCoral on Feb 15, 2004 6:15:14 GMT -5
No, I believe it would be Frodo. He is, of course, the main character. He chooses to take the task of destroying It. He endures It, not forever, but longer than most. And he takes It to Mount Morannon. He saves Middle Earth. Sam, is his strength. Sam doesn't let him quit. Though Sam did very much in helping, he did not take The Ring to Mordor and destroy it. Sam actually did take up The Ring for a while, yet you may have a point. However, I still hold Sam as the hero, though an unsung one. As well, if you remember, Frodo did not destroy the One either, it was destroyed in the struggle between he and Gollom. *Shrugs* Sorry if that came off as harsh, it was not meant to be. I do appreciate that which you have to offer and look forward to further discussions. - The Tanomanar
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Heroes
Feb 16, 2004 0:33:25 GMT -5
Post by radagast on Feb 16, 2004 0:33:25 GMT -5
i wouldnt say that frodo was the hero, because althogh he did get the ring to mount doom, it wasnt he who actually threw it in, and if it wasnt for gollum, he would have taken it for himself just like isildur, and we don't consider isildur a hero do we. I'm not saying gollum is the hero, but that all the characters are. None of them did any one deed that saved middle earth.
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Heroes
Feb 16, 2004 0:36:14 GMT -5
Post by Boromir on Feb 16, 2004 0:36:14 GMT -5
Well thank you, Dr. Malcolm, but I think things are a little different than we expected.
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Heroes
Feb 16, 2004 0:37:17 GMT -5
Post by radagast on Feb 16, 2004 0:37:17 GMT -5
yeah I know theyre a lot worse
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vacin8r
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Heroes
Feb 25, 2004 22:38:44 GMT -5
Post by vacin8r on Feb 25, 2004 22:38:44 GMT -5
i think one of the best things about LOTR is that more than one hero is necessary to the sucess over sauron. gollum, frodo, sam, gandalf, faramir, aragorn, elrond, legolas, gimli, merry, pippen, and even to a point people like baromir, remove any of them from the story, and the victory is lost. -don
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Feb 25, 2004 22:41:42 GMT -5
Post by Boromir on Feb 25, 2004 22:41:42 GMT -5
Being the "hero" of the story and being essential to the storyline are two different things.
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Heroes
Feb 26, 2004 12:00:38 GMT -5
Post by Ilúvatar on Feb 26, 2004 12:00:38 GMT -5
I definately think that the hero is intertwined with the supporting characters, but maybe there is more than one hero?
A hero with the Ring.
A hero in battle.
A hero in overcoming obstacles.
Wow - I've got somemore to think on.
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vacin8r
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Heroes
Feb 26, 2004 14:52:54 GMT -5
Post by vacin8r on Feb 26, 2004 14:52:54 GMT -5
for just the LOTR i would say the heroes are frodo, aragorn, and gandalf with the others being secondary proponents of the story. however it is difficult to clarify the term hero in a setting that switches focus as much as LOTR does. -don
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Feb 26, 2004 15:17:05 GMT -5
Post by Boromir on Feb 26, 2004 15:17:05 GMT -5
I would totally agree with your choices.
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Feb 28, 2004 14:32:10 GMT -5
Post by Lady of Light on Feb 28, 2004 14:32:10 GMT -5
Me too!
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Feb 29, 2004 15:40:27 GMT -5
Post by Legolas on Feb 29, 2004 15:40:27 GMT -5
the whole fellowship are heroes
merry/pippin - convinced treebeard to get isengard frodo/sam - brought the ring to mount doom boromir - saved merry/pippin aragorn - saved the hobbits a few times, made diversion legolas - helped gimli get through lorien, was good in battle gimli - stayed with the fellowship, good warrior, helped people like gondors, rohans.
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Apr 9, 2004 2:31:58 GMT -5
Post by Kitoky on Apr 9, 2004 2:31:58 GMT -5
There are alot of ways to be a hero.
Boromir - he won Osgiliath over for his city, he'd do anything to have his people be known, he died to save Pippin and Merry.
Gandalf - He was the only Istari to complete the mission that the five Istari were sent to Middle-Earth for. He died to keep the Balrog at bay from the Fellowship.
Aragorn - Classic hero, he doesn't initially want to be the King of Gondor but he will if he must.
Legolas - Another classic hero, hey, he's an elf, also claimed 'hott' to many fangirls. First cold to the dwarf but starts to willingly work with him
Gimli - Started off hot-tempered a more distant to the group except for Gandalf in which he has known for many years. Starts to willingly develop his relation with elf.
Merry - Helped Gandalf figure out the riddle outside the gates of Moria, not Frodo in the movies.
Pippin - Helped the citadel, Bergil, all of them in the Return of the King.
Sam - He could not be more dedicated to Frodo, he would die for Frodo, he encounters alot of traumatic events, he defeated Shelob in her lair.
Frodo - Alot of people believe that Frodo's a wimp and is not a hero. But he is. He did not have to take up the burden to carry the Ring at the Council of Elrond, but he did. Though he isn't a hero in a sense that he can fight, you don't have to be strong just by wielding a sword.
In the Return of the King when Frodo's hanging at the side of the cliff in Mount Doom, did you see the look in his eyes? The look of someone who has seen to much for such a small person...
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