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Post by Eru on Feb 14, 2005 9:51:13 GMT -5
THE SHADOW OF THE PASTIn this chapter, Bilbo is gone and Frodo has inheirited Bag End. Gandalf would come and check on Frodo every now and again and then after a 9 year absense Gandalf finally comes back to the Shire. Here we learn of the Ring and about Gollum. Questions to Ponder(please feel free to answer one, all, or none of the questions, they are here to help get you thinking about the chapter)
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Post by Lady of Light on Feb 15, 2005 20:05:39 GMT -5
When dealing with the Ring, do you see any similarities to Bilbo and Gollum? When they were telling others about how the Ring came to them, they both lied about it.
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Post by Eru on Feb 17, 2005 9:12:10 GMT -5
One thing I noticed about this chapter was Tolkien's use of shadow. Shadow references tend to describe very dark things. Maybe something we don't fully understand. To the point of evil. I think we see a bit of Sam's character developing when he shares his stories at the pub and his response to Ted Sandyman. Why does it seem that Bilbo is not as influenced by the Ring as Gollum?How is the Ring influencing Frodo? How did Gandalf react when offered the Ring? Why do you think he acted this way?
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Post by Goblinglow on Feb 22, 2005 17:20:02 GMT -5
Why does it seem that Bilbo is not as influenced by the Ring as Gollum? When dealing with the Ring, do you see any similarities to Bilbo and Gollum? I felt that Hobbits, of all the peoples in Middle-earth, were the least affected by the Ring because they have so little greed in them, and I think Bilbo, because he was a Hobbit, was able to resist the temptation of the Ring for so long. Most of the similarities I saw between Bilbo and Gollum were for possesion over the Ring; how both of them constantly needed to see it to make sure it was there, or that they hadn't lost it, and that they both referred to the Ring as "preciouss."
How is the Ring influencing Frodo? What danger is there now for Frodo? For the Shire? Honestly, I don't think the Ring has such a direct hold on Frodo, yet. I also don't think that Frodo, until he starts experiencing the full effects of the Ring, understands the power it hold. Because the Ring is in Frodo's possesion, the Nazgul are obviously going to come after him, and since Frodo lives in the Shire that presents a problem for its' inhabitants. Frodo is subject to a lot of danger, because of the Ring.
What do you think of Sam's reaction to being caught eavesdropping? I found his reaction rather comical, especially when he said his, "Old Gaffer would take on so." It was an understatement. XD
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Post by Eru on Feb 23, 2005 9:51:40 GMT -5
I thought Sam's reaction to being caught eavesdropping was comical too. I laugh every time I read it. He was actually pretty quick with the come back. I think that this is where I fell in love with Sam.
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Post by Elanor on Aug 5, 2005 19:45:24 GMT -5
Yes I have to agree with Eru, that's when I fell in love with sam. elanor
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Post by Elanor on Sept 22, 2005 16:48:51 GMT -5
I think that in one important aspect, the ring didn't have chance to influence Frodo as much as Smeaqol. Frodo is loved and loves back, he has friends and relatives and caring neighbours and he loves his home. Smeagol was not really loved and the ring had more to tempt him with. what do you guys think?
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