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Post by Ilúvatar on Jan 22, 2004 10:51:50 GMT -5
In reading LotR, Book 1, Chapter 2 - Shadow of the Past, I noticed that Gandalf asks Frodo for the Ring. Frodo reluctanlty gives Gandalf the Ring. Gandalf looks at it and throws it into the fire. Then later on that same day (and in the same chapter), Frodo wants to give Gandalf the Ring and he refuses.
Gandalf had the Ring, he touched it. Any thoughts?
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Post by Legolas on Feb 3, 2004 22:20:52 GMT -5
it was probably because he had a strong will, and was able to resist it for a time. remember sam? if a hobbit was able to resist it for a few days, gandalf could for a few hours.
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Post by Isthir - RifCoral on Feb 5, 2004 3:08:25 GMT -5
I believe that we answered this on "another site". I would post either a quote from there or a link, but sleep depravation slows all that process down.
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Post by Ilúvatar on Feb 6, 2004 18:38:56 GMT -5
It's always nice to know what others think about it too  . |
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Post by radagast on Feb 16, 2004 1:27:30 GMT -5
well when he threw it into the fire he wasnt yet sure that it was the one ring. I'm sure gandalf has enough will to hold it for a second or 2 without getting corrupted, especially if he doesnt know that its the one.
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Post by Ilúvatar on Feb 16, 2004 12:50:29 GMT -5
See what I read into it was that Gandalf knew it was the Ring this would just confirm it.
Because he was so adamant later on not to have the Ring but was demanding it earlier is what got me.
Also he had one of the 3 elven rings and once he touched it wouldn't he have felt the presence of the Sauron's Ring. Because as we see with Boromir he was tempted and overcome by the Ring and never touched it.
Just some more thoughts.
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Post by Bombadil on Feb 19, 2004 23:19:24 GMT -5
Yeah, but Boromir stood in the shadow of the ring's presence for weeks (maybe months). So, even though he didn't touch it, he thought about it daily most likely and how it could be used to save Gondor. Then finally at the Falls of Rauros, he could not bear it anymore and attempted to take it.
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Post by Legolas on Feb 20, 2004 10:27:24 GMT -5
what about on caradhras? he seemed to want it a whole lot then!
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Post by Ilúvatar on Feb 20, 2004 11:42:24 GMT -5
I think nazgul that you might be confusing the movie with the book. That never happened in the book.
My answer to that was so was the whole Fellowship.
Gandalf was almost certain. He had Narya which would have recognized the One Ring the moment he touched it.
Gandalf also held it after it came out of the fire.
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Post by Legolas on Feb 20, 2004 14:48:13 GMT -5
but he let go about a second later...not really a long amount of time
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Post by Ilúvatar on Feb 20, 2004 14:52:50 GMT -5
For some, like Boromir, didn't even need to touch it.
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Post by Isthir - RifCoral on Feb 20, 2004 15:48:27 GMT -5
The Ruling Ring was seen has the most powerful weapon in ME. This thought, I believe, is what sparked Boromir's desire for it. He dwelt in Minas Tirith and fought The Enemy's minions for long years. Originally, as it was stated by him (I think) that he would use it to crush his enemies and end the suffering of his people.
-Isthir
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Post by Legolas on Feb 20, 2004 16:15:49 GMT -5
yeah-that's what he said
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Post by Isthir - RifCoral on Feb 21, 2004 3:06:19 GMT -5
*Shrugs* What can I say? I try to live up to the name Isthir which means Lore Master
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Post by Legolas on Feb 21, 2004 16:29:37 GMT -5
oooh. that explains a lot
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